Comments on: 'Out In The Silence' Filmmaker Lies, Then Refuses to Answer Questions http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/ Late Breaking News for Coudersport and Northcentral PA Fri, 11 May 2012 16:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Scott http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-3419 Scott Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:51:45 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-3419 Weatern PA, a place I used to be so proud of. As a child, I grew up in Ambridge, but my parents left in 83 because of the poor job conditions. Many years later, my heart still lies in the Burgh...However, when I look back at the place I was born, there is a deep hatred that lies inside so many who still live there. I'm a straight, married, white, educated male who works hard for my family. It amazes me that people like Diane Gramley have such a big stage and loud voice that hopefully only speaks for a small few. Deep down inside, I know everyone doesn't hate as much as she does in the state I love...do they? It saddens me. Documentary movies are one of the only true voices left to tell real stories of the issues at hand in our country. I am glad we have strong people willing to show us the struggle those who are not like me face day in and day out. Western PA should be ashamed if this is how we truly feel and treat others we disagree with! Weatern PA, a place I used to be so proud of. As a child, I grew up in Ambridge, but my parents left in 83 because of the poor job conditions. Many years later, my heart still lies in the Burgh…However, when I look back at the place I was born, there is a deep hatred that lies inside so many who still live there. I’m a straight, married, white, educated male who works hard for my family. It amazes me that people like Diane Gramley have such a big stage and loud voice that hopefully only speaks for a small few. Deep down inside, I know everyone doesn’t hate as much as she does in the state I love…do they? It saddens me. Documentary movies are one of the only true voices left to tell real stories of the issues at hand in our country. I am glad we have strong people willing to show us the struggle those who are not like me face day in and day out. Western PA should be ashamed if this is how we truly feel and treat others we disagree with!

]]> By: Kim Thomas http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-229 Kim Thomas Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:44:08 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-229 Saw the documentary in Altoona, Pa, at the Altoona Campus of Penn State. I am the mother of a gay son. I went to see what today's Mother of a gay son went through and what her son endured as well. I must say I was disappointed to see much has not changed (my son is 31) in the last few years. You all can argue who said what and who did what but I have to say I was so hurt that the hate and bigotry is still going on today. What is wrong with us?!! I am a Christian and I hurt so much for those among us that need our love and the love Christ spoke of and exhibited so well but are deemed "unworthy" by our religious leaders and those among us who speak "for us". My God, My God, why has't thou forsaken us? Who among you is sinless? Who among you is pure enough to cast the first stone? Where is the relationship that Christ had with "sinners"? I may be just another backwoods Mom who cares about her child and yours but I hope the posts here aren't the only thoughts and feelings of other "Christian" people. If so, God help us. Feel free to email me with any responses. God Bless you all. Saw the documentary in Altoona, Pa, at the Altoona Campus of Penn State. I am the mother of a gay son. I went to see what today’s Mother of a gay son went through and what her son endured as well. I must say I was disappointed to see much has not changed (my son is 31) in the last few years. You all can argue who said what and who did what but I have to say I was so hurt that the hate and bigotry is still going on today. What is wrong with us?!! I am a Christian and I hurt so much for those among us that need our love and the love Christ spoke of and exhibited so well but are deemed “unworthy” by our religious leaders and those among us who speak “for us”. My God, My God, why has’t thou forsaken us? Who among you is sinless? Who among you is pure enough to cast the first stone? Where is the relationship that Christ had with “sinners”? I may be just another backwoods Mom who cares about her child and yours but I hope the posts here aren’t the only thoughts and feelings of other “Christian” people. If so, God help us. Feel free to email me with any responses. God Bless you all.

]]> By: Michael McClure http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-228 Michael McClure Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:14:25 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-228 After attending a recent screening of this film in Altoona, Pennsylvania, I felt led to do some research on people and events relayed in it, which led me to this website and article. I honestly don't know what to make of the events reported by the editor, but I can say that I am shocked and appalled if they are true. As a gay man myself, I believe that the best tool we have against bias is education--not perpetrating the same kind of intolerance that we purport to oppose. Stereotypes do nothing to resolve conflict, and intolerance on either side is simply destructive. You have my sincerest sympathy for what you endured, as I have been there myself many times. I sincerely hope there will come a day when issues like this can be resolved in a TRUE open dialogue (on both sides), and we can finally come to a place where we agree to "live and let live". Editor's Response: Thank you Michael, I completely agree with you 100%. After attending a recent screening of this film in Altoona, Pennsylvania, I felt led to do some research on people and events relayed in it, which led me to this website and article. I honestly don’t know what to make of the events reported by the editor, but I can say that I am shocked and appalled if they are true. As a gay man myself, I believe that the best tool we have against bias is education–not perpetrating the same kind of intolerance that we purport to oppose. Stereotypes do nothing to resolve conflict, and intolerance on either side is simply destructive. You have my sincerest sympathy for what you endured, as I have been there myself many times. I sincerely hope there will come a day when issues like this can be resolved in a TRUE open dialogue (on both sides), and we can finally come to a place where we agree to “live and let live”.

Editor’s Response:
Thank you Michael, I completely agree with you 100%.

]]> By: Ted http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-225 Ted Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:42:21 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-225 It's a shame that your own prejudice keeps you from appreciating the message of hope and love which runs all through "Out in the Silence." I do hope you haven't passed on your intolerance to your children -- leaving them a legacy of hate would be a terrible thing. <strong>Editor's Response:</strong> Ted, please point out one instance where I have said I am prejudiced against anyone. I have clearly stated my personal position on the matter. What really is a shame is that people such as yourself feel so strongly about the 'message' that 'Out In The Silence' delivers, that you turn a blind eye to the lies and propaganda used to promote it. You feel so strongly about the message that you care not of the messenger's tactics. Joe Wilson has blatantly lied numerous times. Heck he even lied straight to my face in front of everyone at the screening. When I asked him about the lies he published on his website, his response was, "we don't have a website". Five minutes later he told the crowd, "You can find the information on our website". Why did no one report that? Because the other media knows that doing such would not be popular. I don't care what your message or cause is, spreading lies and making false reports is no way to promote it. As for my reporting, I will report the truth regardless of whether or not it is popular. The leader of the Tea Party apologized for involving the Tea Party in the matter. I think it's time that Wilson owned up to his actions and also apologized. It’s a shame that your own prejudice keeps you from appreciating the message of hope and love which runs all through “Out in the Silence.”

I do hope you haven’t passed on your intolerance to your children — leaving them a legacy of hate would be a terrible thing.

Editor’s Response:
Ted, please point out one instance where I have said I am prejudiced against anyone. I have clearly stated my personal position on the matter.

What really is a shame is that people such as yourself feel so strongly about the ‘message’ that ‘Out In The Silence’ delivers, that you turn a blind eye to the lies and propaganda used to promote it. You feel so strongly about the message that you care not of the messenger’s tactics.

Joe Wilson has blatantly lied numerous times. Heck he even lied straight to my face in front of everyone at the screening. When I asked him about the lies he published on his website, his response was, “we don’t have a website”. Five minutes later he told the crowd, “You can find the information on our website”.

Why did no one report that? Because the other media knows that doing such would not be popular.

I don’t care what your message or cause is, spreading lies and making false reports is no way to promote it.

As for my reporting, I will report the truth regardless of whether or not it is popular.

The leader of the Tea Party apologized for involving the Tea Party in the matter. I think it’s time that Wilson owned up to his actions and also apologized.

]]> By: Joan http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-224 Joan Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:22:00 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-224 Oh and James Hipps- your comments are not worth the time to read them, you hateful mean person! Oh and James Hipps-
your comments are not worth the time to read them, you hateful mean person!

]]> By: Joan http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-223 Joan Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:20:50 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-223 So, when do you think people are going to see the truth? Will they forever remain blind to the fact these two guys are liars and they will go on doing this as they move across Pennsylvania? Duke and Terry, thank you for being open and honest. This is has been very frustrating, listening to others who just rush into opening their mouths and jumping on the hate bandwagon. I have never heard so many self centered opinions in my life as I have this past week and all in one little town. I bet the two guys who started all the lies are loving every bit of it. But then maybe they are pathological liars and believe what they lie about! They might see it different, see it backwards or even inside out! Heck they might just see a double rainbow. Those of us with our eyes wide open can see just what is going on. They will not stop as long as gullible people "follow" them and puff them up. They just have NO sense at all! I'm sorry but the trail of lies continues and it makes me sick, when it is RIGHT there in front of everyone eyes. People are so blind. I also want to mention, there are many cowards in this area too. Those who are scared to stand up for what is right, God help you when the Lord returns! So, when do you think people are going to see the truth?

Will they forever remain blind to the fact these two guys are liars and they will go on doing this as they move across Pennsylvania?

Duke and Terry, thank you for being open and honest.

This is has been very frustrating, listening to others who just rush into opening their mouths and jumping on the hate bandwagon.

I have never heard so many self centered opinions in my life as I have this past week and all in one little town.

I bet the two guys who started all the lies are loving every bit of it. But then maybe they are pathological liars and believe what they lie about! They might see it different, see it backwards or even inside out! Heck they might just see a double rainbow.

Those of us with our eyes wide open can see just what is going on.

They will not stop as long as gullible people “follow” them and puff them up. They just have NO sense at all!

I’m sorry but the trail of lies continues and it makes me sick, when it is RIGHT there in front of everyone eyes. People are so blind.

I also want to mention, there are many cowards in this area too. Those who are scared to stand up for what is right, God help you when the Lord returns!

]]> By: deb http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-222 deb Sun, 01 Aug 2010 00:51:33 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-222 I wonder if ppl would be so outspoken if the issue were fornicators and adulterers.... I wonder if ppl would be so outspoken if the issue were fornicators and adulterers….

]]> By: Duke Mantee http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-221 Duke Mantee Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:17:53 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-221 @Terry Wankel- good points but you need to look deeper. Yes, Smethport and Emporium are small towns. But they are also COUNTY SEATS. This is not mere happenstance. Look at Wilson's website: http://wpsu.org/outinthesilence/screenings_index Note the rest of the screenings that have taken place or are scheduled. All but one or two of those 'small towns' just happen to be COUNTY SEATS (the seat of County Government) too. This propaganda and the false negative publicity they generate around it are designed to soften up public opinion amongst the gullible populace and the legislators. This is a prelude to when, not far in the future, Stephen A Glassman through his operatives in the homosexual activist community, petitions the County government to enact a protective ordinance for homosexuals and transgenders. They are in the final stages of getting one in Doylestown and have just laid the groundwork in Lower Merion Township (Montgomery County) and Radnor Township (Delaware County) They are working feverishly in Lancaster County too. So don't breathe a sigh of relief that this event has come and gone for Coudersport. It has only just begun for you guys. I have no problem with homosexuals going about their business either. But when you see the manipulative propaganda they employ and the lies they use to hype it up, you cannot help but question their sincerity and what their total mission really is. @Terry Wankel- good points but you need to look deeper. Yes, Smethport and Emporium are small towns. But they are also COUNTY SEATS. This is not mere happenstance.

Look at Wilson’s website:
http://wpsu.org/outinthesilence/screenings_index
Note the rest of the screenings that have taken place or are scheduled. All but one or two of those ‘small towns’ just happen to be COUNTY SEATS (the seat of County Government) too.

This propaganda and the false negative publicity they generate around it are designed to soften up public opinion amongst the gullible populace and the legislators. This is a prelude to when, not far in the future, Stephen A Glassman through his operatives in the homosexual activist community, petitions the County government to enact a protective ordinance for homosexuals and transgenders.

They are in the final stages of getting one in Doylestown and have just laid the groundwork in Lower Merion Township (Montgomery County) and Radnor Township (Delaware County) They are working feverishly in Lancaster County too.

So don’t breathe a sigh of relief that this event has come and gone for Coudersport. It has only just begun for you guys. I have no problem with homosexuals going about their business either. But when you see the manipulative propaganda they employ and the lies they use to hype it up, you cannot help but question their sincerity and what their total mission really is.

]]> By: Duke Mantee http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-220 Duke Mantee Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:58:06 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-220 @Robert- Thanks for posting the link http://www.gayagenda.com/ and exposing James Hipps. The web is a great resource, makes it very hard to misrepresent yourself. Two articles on Hipps' website speak volumes and are worth a look-see: In the first homosexuals scoff at the idea that homosexual couplings are just about sex: http://www.gayagenda.com/2010/07/its-only-about-sex-nothing-more-nothing-less/ Further down the list we find an article that explores homosexual coupling amongst various species of animals including the claim that some animals even make and use their own sex toys: QUOTE: "Yes, sex toys, as in dildos and masturbation aids, but instead of visiting a sex store or going on-line, they just make their requirements themselves." http://www.gayagenda.com/2010/07/animals-gay-straight-use-sex-toys-too/ Goes to show there is no need to make stuff up about these folks, they hang themselves with their own words. The sanitized imagery they portray in their propaganda is a far cry from reality. @Robert- Thanks for posting the link http://www.gayagenda.com/ and exposing James Hipps. The web is a great resource, makes it very hard to misrepresent yourself.

Two articles on Hipps’ website speak volumes and are worth a look-see:

In the first homosexuals scoff at the idea that homosexual couplings are just about sex:

http://www.gayagenda.com/2010/07/its-only-about-sex-nothing-more-nothing-less/

Further down the list we find an article that explores homosexual coupling amongst various species of animals including the claim that some animals even make and use their own sex toys:

QUOTE:
“Yes, sex toys, as in dildos and masturbation aids, but instead of visiting a sex store or going on-line, they just make their requirements themselves.”

http://www.gayagenda.com/2010/07/animals-gay-straight-use-sex-toys-too/

Goes to show there is no need to make stuff up about these folks, they hang themselves with their own words. The sanitized imagery they portray in their propaganda is a far cry from reality.

]]> By: admin http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-219 admin Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:08:16 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-219 Thank you Terry! :) Thank you Terry! :)

]]> By: Terry Wankel http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-218 Terry Wankel Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:40:17 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-218 Mr. Wilson's own site showed how much that he could twist the truth and add lies to it to sensationalize the event for his own benefit. He linked to a CoudyNews article and said that the article showed that there were attacks, and going to be attacks against him, but nothing in the CoudyNews article said any such thing. Watch when this hits Smethport, and Emporium, 2 more small towns in which this man can call the police and claim that there have been threats when there weren't any, raise controversy, and further his own agenda. Gay or straight, black or white, lying and smearing one group (or town) to further your own cause only sets your cause back even further, sometimes to irreparable distances. Maybe Wilson should think about that before he tries his smear campaign again. As for not letting anyone else comment, shame on them. Instead of dismissing those with other views, shouldn't they have been trying to convince them otherwise? They'd rather dismiss him because in actuality, they want more rights than anyone else, not equal rights. I fully support those who choose to live the gay lifestyle, but I will not support the actions of sensationalists and liars. For those who are calling this article stupid, calling CoudyNews a joke, and those saying to remove a man who has a different opinion, what would you have felt if the same was done to you? Should someone else's opinion have kept you from seeing the movie? Should their opinion have silenced your own? Should you be considered a joke because you don't agree with every bit of information fed to you? Hypocrites is what we call groups that engage in activity such as this. Mr. Wilson’s own site showed how much that he could twist the truth and add lies to it to sensationalize the event for his own benefit. He linked to a CoudyNews article and said that the article showed that there were attacks, and going to be attacks against him, but nothing in the CoudyNews article said any such thing. Watch when this hits Smethport, and Emporium, 2 more small towns in which this man can call the police and claim that there have been threats when there weren’t any, raise controversy, and further his own agenda.
Gay or straight, black or white, lying and smearing one group (or town) to further your own cause only sets your cause back even further, sometimes to irreparable distances. Maybe Wilson should think about that before he tries his smear campaign again.
As for not letting anyone else comment, shame on them. Instead of dismissing those with other views, shouldn’t they have been trying to convince them otherwise? They’d rather dismiss him because in actuality, they want more rights than anyone else, not equal rights.
I fully support those who choose to live the gay lifestyle, but I will not support the actions of sensationalists and liars.
For those who are calling this article stupid, calling CoudyNews a joke, and those saying to remove a man who has a different opinion, what would you have felt if the same was done to you? Should someone else’s opinion have kept you from seeing the movie? Should their opinion have silenced your own? Should you be considered a joke because you don’t agree with every bit of information fed to you? Hypocrites is what we call groups that engage in activity such as this.

]]> By: admin http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-217 admin Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:09:26 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-217 @ 8:03 You'll need to leave your name next time if you expect me to approve another comment such as that. I will not allow this site to become host to anonymous character assassinations. Now, please point out one mis-truth in this article. @ 8:03

You’ll need to leave your name next time if you expect me to approve another comment such as that.

I will not allow this site to become host to anonymous character assassinations.

Now, please point out one mis-truth in this article.

]]> By: Anonymous http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-216 Anonymous Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:03:50 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-216 i think you are a totally joke. you should really find something better to do with you life or tell the truth about what you are writing about. i think you are a totally joke. you should really find something better to do with you life or tell the truth about what you are writing about.

]]> By: admin http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-215 admin Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:01:12 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-215 @ 7:51 The 'BIG deal' came as the result of false reports by the filmmaker Joe Wilson. Wilson made it a big deal, as any filmmaker wants a 'big deal' to publicize his film. It seems Wilson is no exception. He cast Coudersport into a statewide spotlight, and by doing so made our community look very bad to outsiders. I believe this is why people care. This article really has little to do with being homosexual, it's about the events and false news releases leading up to and surrounding the screening of the film. thx :) @ 7:51

The ‘BIG deal’ came as the result of false reports by the filmmaker Joe Wilson. Wilson made it a big deal, as any filmmaker wants a ‘big deal’ to publicize his film. It seems Wilson is no exception.

He cast Coudersport into a statewide spotlight, and by doing so made our community look very bad to outsiders.

I believe this is why people care. This article really has little to do with being homosexual, it’s about the events and false news releases leading up to and surrounding the screening of the film.

thx :)

]]> By: me http://coudynews.com/local-news/out-in-the-silence-filmmaker-lies-then-refuses-to-answer-questions/#comment-214 me Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:51:42 +0000 http://coudynews.com/?p=5405#comment-214 Honestly.. who cares.. really.. you can like who you wanna like and everyone else can like whoever they want to.. i just dont understand why this BIG of deal has to be made over something sooooo small.. Get a life people!!! :) Honestly.. who cares.. really.. you can like who you wanna like and everyone else can like whoever they want to.. i just dont understand why this BIG of deal has to be made over something sooooo small.. Get a life people!!! :)

]]>